Defining Israeli Zionist Racism: Part 11

Section 2: Deconstructing Kay’s statement

After we outlined a comprehensive account on the definition of Israeli Zionist racism as a premise to rebutting Kay’s comments on “Defining Racism”, we want to reaffirm the following: Zionist Israeli racism is different from many other forms of racism. This is mainly because it has an international cover, and it enjoys impunity, and benefits from prodigious supplies of armaments and money from the United States, Britain, Germany, France, and Zionist organizations.

As for Zionist Israeli racism being diverse from other racism, let us discuss the matter briefly. For instance, Japanese acts of fascist racism in Korea and China, although belonging to the same racial matrix as Chinese, Korean, and Vietnamese, stemmed from Japanese supremacist feelings, because, at that time, it had an advanced economy based on incipient western-style industrialization, aggressive militarization, and fanatic nationalism. Another example is the current American fascist racism, which is more advanced and complex than that of Japan for multiple reasons. Among these is the persistence of militarized racism in international relations, rampant cultural and economic discrimination against ethnic and religious groups making up the American nation, persistent economic disparities among social groups, the dominance of white British and Anglo-Saxon culture in a multi-ethnic society, rampant Zionization of the American culture and institutions, poverty among minorities, and so on.

Yet, while both American and Israeli racisms have many traits in common (since both societies derive their existence from colonialism and expropriation of land belonging to others), they, nevertheless, differ in one crucial respect: American racism is a product of self-styled and self-generated colonialism; Israeli colonialism is dependent, that is, Israel cannot sustain its colonialism from inside. In fact, without Western aid, Israel’s collapse is a distinct possibility notwithstanding its nuclear weapons and so-called military superiority over its adversaries. Paradoxically, Zionism itself (as a racist doctrine) is the causative factor in making Israel insecure psychologically.

This insecurity finds its justification in a paradox whereby Jews believe they are superior since a mythological deity chose them to be a “special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth,” (Deuteronomy 7:6). (For the record, fundamentalist Christian zealots back Jews’ (accepting that they are the successor of the Israelites) self-bestowed sense of superiority despite the fact that the Zionist state discriminates against Palestinian Christians under its occupation. In his book, Ballam’s Curse, Moshe Leshem, a former Israeli diplomat, summarized the essence of Israeli supremacist beliefs as follows:

… But in order to win support from the mass of European Jews, the early Zionists misappropriated the trappings of religious Judaism, portraying their hopes-for Jewish state as the fulfillment of the Jewish people’s theological destiny—their Biblically ordained role as the Chosen People that through whom God would redeem mankind.Moshe Leshem, Ballam’s Curse (Simon and Shuster: 1989, inside jacket). [italics added]

Interestingly, and based on Leshem’s statement, the problem that makes Israel such a busy nest of racism is, then, twofold:

1. The dogma of the Judaic religion that makes its adherents believe in their uniqueness,

2. The Zionist belief that they can create a state exclusive for the Jews at the expense of the Palestinians while they can still control the entire globe with extensive networks of Jews having diverse nationalities.

The other reason for Israeli racism is a material-ideological sickness that tends to view the Arabs and Palestinians as necessarily wicked because they refuse subjugation to the Zionist order in the Middle East. Ultimately, a sense of Zionist superiority must be at play because no matter what atrocities they commit, western imperialist states are on their side but that, of course, is not because of tender mercies or love; it is because Israel is the right instrument to revamp colonialism.

Having said that, discussing Israeli Zionist racism should serve principally to uncover the propaganda terrain on which Zionist operatives conduct their ceaseless efforts to rewrite and falsify history, as well as to expose as baseless the rationales that lubricate the racist engine of the Jewish state and its illegal and illegitimate practices in Palestine and in the Arab world.

Consequently, we will treat Kay’s comments as being representative of operational Zionism and complete our rebuttal based on two levels: 1) general context, and 2) the deconstructed contents. We will demonstrate that, aside from ingrained racism, Israel and its western imperialist supporters are keen at falsifying events in the history of Palestine and the Middle East to suit Zionist Israel’s version of the same, while counting on controlled media and on the passage of time to lobotomize the memory of nations and its verifiable chronicled events.

Zionists maybe able to re-write history and believe in it too, but objective forces of history would always be able to erase the spurious chapters and re-write things differently. History is just the recordings of past events by humans; this matter, evidenced by rewritings and re-analysis of historical events illustrates the fluidity of history. This argues resolutely against any era of history that some try to depict sacrosanct and beyond reproach.

Then, the greatest challenge we face is, how can we verify historical facts and what source can we trust for historical truths in the age of mass manipulation? Opening history for scrutiny, refutation, affirmation, and confirmation is just a first step in the right direction, and that is if the word “right” can still make sense in a world dominated by imperialist ideologies, globalist corporations, and fascist institutions whose principle aim is repackaging information, distorting news, and detaching reality from real events.

However, despite what we call “mastodontic confusion by disinformation,” academic rigor, epistemological validity, and honest scholarship still demand untrammeled, unexpurgated disclosures of history — otherwise the “truth” is in danger of concealment, obfuscation, or even outright perversion. Yes, it is the job of historians to arrive at the truth, but also it is everyone else’s responsibility to apply open-minded skepticism to history as some quarters want to present it. On the specific issue of ideological Zionism, since disinformation, propaganda, and falsification of history are its hallmarks, it rejects the history of humanity. Yet, it is only a matter of time before the entire Zionist structure of deception will permanently collapse because, materially and pragmatically, Israeli society cannot and will not be able to sustain itself in its current form indefinitely.

General Context

In her rebuttal, Kay fallaciously attempts to legitimize Zionist Jews’ theft of land from the Indigenous Palestinians. She offers no justification for this usurpation other than the UN Partition Plan of 1947. Usually, Zionist Jews appeal to sympathy stemming from their victimization by Nazis. This is without basis in any elementary morality. Clearly, a group victimized by a second group does not earn some right to victimize a third group uninvolved in perpetration of the original act of victimization. If, indeed, such a morality-defying right did exist, then, consequently, the group that has forcibly transferred another group cannot later complain when it ends up suffering a similar fate.

In addition, a societal entity cannot claim a right to existence based on its extinguishment of the same right for a previously existing societal entity. For arguments sake, if a state has a right to exist (which we do not agree with), then in the case of the state of Israel, its right to exist would be no greater than the right of a Palestinian state to exist.

Dialectically, despite its illegal origins, but under the existing reality of Israel as a society and as “state”, the Palestinian rights to exist as a state and as a society are equal in every respect to that of Israel. However, another natural principle comes into play: the preeminent right owing to primordial existence. Since if a state has a right to exist, then no other entity has a right to extinguish this state’s right to exist. It is illegitimate by the principles of the natural law to argue for the right of Israel to exist over and above the right of Palestine to exist and to continue to exist. Rights, for the greater part, owe their existence to universally recognized concepts of human respect for others to exist and continue in toward endless time. This is what the Universal Declaration of Human posits: a universality of human rights. While the UDHR is legally non-binding, no UN member state opposed the ratification of the UDHR, and it has the compelling force of morality behind it.

Furthermore, hypothetically, if there is such a beast as the right of a state to exist, then that right to exist must be retroactive universally. An asserted right of one group cannot exist on the extinguishment of a right for another group — to do so would be reductio ad absurdum. Arguably, therefore, if the existence of a state to exist is to be a universally recognized right, then this universality must be equally applicable to all. Racism and dispossession of the Palestinians violate their human rights. Palestinian human rights activist Omar Barghouti recently stated: “No state has the right to exist as a racist state.” Israeli rejectionism of this reality is a rejection of peace since wars, including future wars would be, by default, the method to resolve the history of dispossession and occupation.

Also, referring to a widespread acceptance of a grotesque violation of law does not legitimize that violation of law. That the UN sanctions the violation of the human rights of a group, that the UN violates its very own charter that recognizes the right of a people to self-determination does not wrap the dispossession of the indigenous Palestinian people in any legitimate legality and certainly not in any morality. The fact is that European Jews were invaders and colonizers. They had the right to immigrate legally, they had the right to buy land legally, but they did not have the right to dispossess the Palestinians. Few people are ready to unequivocally agree that theft is a right. But that is, in effect, the unethical nonsense supporters of Zionism are arguing.

People create laws for many reasons. Presumably, the guiding reason is to prevent crimes and keep society ordered equitably for the good and security of all citizens. Whatever laws humans may devise, there are guiding principles that have some basis in morality, and these principles should supersede and underlie law. Legal positions without a basis in morality are, arguably, of dubious legitimacy. We stand by a principle: Forcible transfer of a targeted people — especially an indigenous people — is not only a quintessential crime but also an act of war that only resistance can reverse.

We also agree with the principle enshrined in international law: People have a right to resist their occupation and oppression.

In the wider discussion on Israeli Zionist racism, however, brazen deception, premeditated historical fallacies, straightforward disinformation, unmitigated, bogus analogies, and artificial, lopsided conclusions cannot add up to a critical study or propagandistically elevated to substitute material realities or dissection of it. We are determined to avoid Byzantine discussions on the subject of Israel and Zionism, since the value of a debate is not about upholding one’s own position dogmatically, but rather to re-discover alternative realities based on factual events. Consequently, simple analysis is all that is required to refute the entirety of the National Post columnist’s propaganda.

Deconstructed Contents

The following are measured refutations to Kay’s statements:

Kay: They [Palestinians] were transferred for two reasons: i) because their own leaders told them to leave so they would not be in the path of war, which the Arab countries initiated in 1948 and fully expected to win, after which the people would return and take back all the land and homes of the Jews;

Refutation: The statement does not address the primordial question: did European of Jewish faith and other converts to Judaism have right to colonize Palestine? The answer is a resolute no, and the reason for such resoluteness resides in one fact: their ancestors never inhabited the land they colonized. In addition, Zionist colonists have been basing their colonization on either blatant historical falsification that their ancestors once inhabited the land or on the theological mythology that “God” gave it to them. This latest claim requires, dialectically, two proofs: 1) God’s existence beyond ontological sensations, and 2) at least some credible witness hearing (including specification of spoken language) God promising a land called Palestine to European, Iraqi, Yemeni, Ethiopian, Arab, Persian, and other groups adhering to Judaism.

Pointedly, and contrary to Kay’s claim, Palestinians did not leave voluntarily or by insinuation — Jewish immigrants expelled them through well-documented acts of terrorism.Ilan Pappe, The Ethnic Cleansing of Israel (Oneworld Publications, 2006). Ari Shavit, “Survival of the Fittest? An Interview with Benny Morris,” Haaretz, 16 January 2004. Available at CounterPunch. The big difference between Pappe and Morris is that Morris thinks the “ethnic cleansing” was proper and that it should have been complete.
Second, even if they left because their leaders told them to do so, as she claims, that still does not eliminate their inalienable right to the land they inherited through millennia of continuous existence as a people.

Moreover, as she falsifies history and engages in naked lies, Kay moves to make puerile hypotheses such this one: “after which the people would return and take back all the land and homes of the Jews.” This is why we think it is puerile: If you take something from someone with violence, your act will not: 1) make you automatically the owner of the thing you take by violence, and 2) confer legal ownership of what you take by violence. Arguably, therefore, if the Palestinians struggle to retake their homes and recover their lands, this is their right. Another analogy on ownership by violence: If a thief robs a bank, and the bank tries to recover its money, would the thief then proclaim that the bank is trying to rob him or her illegally?

Kay: because you cannot have hostile people in your own state if they will not agree to live as citizens.

Refutation: This is nonsense. Kay cast labels around freely and in a discriminatory fashion. She labels the dispossessed as a “hostile people.” The Jewish Zionist dispossessors who violently perpetrated the Nakba (“catastrophe” in Arabic referring to the takeover of Palestine by Zionists) are presumably non-hostile. By Kay’s logic, if she and her family were invaded in their residence, stripped of the residence, and cast out, then if she opposed being dispossessed, she would be a “hostile person”!

Simply, colonists of all colors cannot take the land of others, make a state, and ask the land-stripped people to leave because they refuse to be a part of the new state formed by colonists. However, there never was an intention that Zionists would share the stolen land with the Palestinians; it was to be a Jewish state with land reserved for Jews. This does not work in modern times. Yes, it worked on Turtle Island (Canada and the US), Aotearoa (New Zealand), Australia, and elsewhere in the western hemisphere. This took a few centuries to accomplish, and happened in a historical period where universal mass communication or modern illuminating principles were not widespread in acceptance among states. The dispossession of the Original Peoples, however, is a moral outrage that still demands official apology, rectification, return of land title (a western capitalist concept), and reparations. A principled approach recognizes this and demands expiation.

Kay: Transfers of populations go on all the time.

Refutation: That is not true in any context, except that by colonialist authorities. Regardless of socio-economic conditions, an established society would never transfer a population unless such transfer is deemed necessary to protect the population from impending natural calamities such earthquakes, flooding, etc. Any transfer of a large number of a certain population by another ethnic group under any guise including enforcement by violence, induction by intimidation, or propitiation with selective bribes is pure “ethnic cleansing,” especially if coupled with appropriation of lands, homes, or cities belonging to the transferred population. Examples of this type of transfer include the entire experience sustained by the in Indigenous populations of the western hemisphere, Australia, Aotearoa, South Africa, and, of course, Palestine.

But logical thinking is also a victim in Kay’s Zionist game of explanation. Is she stating that just because something has been occurring for a long time, then it is acceptable that it continues to occur, whether it be legal, illegal, moral, immoral? If that was not her inferred conclusion, then why make such a statement, unless she was attempting to induct by false analogy? Yet, if what she is proposing is permissible, then a transfer of Jews from historical Palestine must also be also be feasible as directed by the vicissitudes of power and streams of time. This is nonsense as it implies a never-ending cycle of transfers depending on which group is most powerful at a given moment in time.

Read all Parts: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, and 12.

Kim Petersen is an independent writer and can be reached at kimohp at B.J. Sabri is an observer of the politics of modern colonialism, imperialism, Zionism, and of contemporary Arab issues. He can be reached at Read other articles by Kim and B.J..

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  1. jaime said on January 9th, 2008 at 10:07am #

    So at long last, Kim makes his intentions known.

    Mass transfer of all Israelis.

    So how would you like to proceed now, Mein Fuhrer?

    7,000,000 people.

    Are you going to ask them all politely to leave. Offer them a generous 48 hours notice before resettlement….(in the East?)

    And who is going to carry out your orders, Mein Fuhrer?

    The Hamas? The Republican Guard of Iran? Syria?

    And will there be a selection? Do all get transferred? Do you have some special way of telling Jews apart from Arab Israelis?

    What if they fight back?

    You must have thought out the answers to such questions already, Mein Fuhrer…otherwise why else would you finally come out and declare your intentions to us?

    As w you wrote: ”

    Palestinian human rights activist Omar Barghouti recently stated: “No state has the right to exist as a racist state.”

    So I take it that by this reasoning, Saudi Arabia no longer has a right to exist.

    What are your plans for Saudi Arabia, Mein Fuhrer?

    copy kept in case of mgmt. censorship

  2. Saad said on January 9th, 2008 at 12:29pm #

    Sabri and Peterson wrote:

    >>The statement does not address the primordial question: did European of Jewish faith and other converts to Judaism have right to colonize Palestine? The answer is a resolute no, and the reason for such resoluteness resides in one fact: their ancestors never inhabited the land they colonized.

    They have no right EVEN if “their ancestors never inhabited the land they colonized”. Just as Clinton and Bush do not have the right to colonize Ireland and UK, and just as my kids, born and raised in US have no right to colonize Arabia.

  3. Saad said on January 9th, 2008 at 12:31pm #

    Correction, I meant to say:

    They have no right EVEN if their ancestors HAVE inhabited the land they colonized.

  4. Saad said on January 9th, 2008 at 12:36pm #

    jamie wrote:

    >>So at long last, Kim makes his intentions known.
    Mass transfer of all Israelis.

    Classic Zionist assertions. I did not read Kim saying that. Where in the article he said that? Quote him.

  5. Michael Kenny said on January 9th, 2008 at 1:33pm #

    What exactly is meant by “European [etc] groups adhering to Judaism”. What is the difference between such groups and the European Jews? If there is none, why employ such a convoluted form of words? By the way, as far as I understand, conversion to Judaism and quite rare, and is permitted by the religious authorities only with considerable reluctance. Although I know Jews who are married to non-Jewish partners, I have never encountered a non-Jew who converted to Judasim. I would strongly doubt, therefore, that there were many converts among the people who went to Palestine.

  6. Reader said on January 9th, 2008 at 2:41pm #

    Michael Kenny writes: “I have never encountered a non-Jew who converted to Judasim. I would strongly doubt, therefore, that there were many converts among the people who went to Palestine.”…

    This is preposterous. On large scale Please refer to Arthur Koestler’s “The Thirteenth tribe”. (Incidentally, Koeseler was Jewish). On personal or small scale: Sammy Davis Jr., Liz Taylor, Whitney Houston, and many more converted to Judaism… BUT, by the way, does Kenny want to say that Chinese Jews, Ethiopian Jews, Indian Jews, Turkish Jews, etc. who share no somatic or anthropological similarities belong to the same DNA of the ancient Hebrews who once inhabited Palestine? When this putrid Zionist crap is going to stop? .

  7. jaime said on January 9th, 2008 at 3:41pm #

    Too bad, so Saad.

    “…a transfer of Jews from historical Palestine must also be also be feasible as directed by the vicissitudes of power and streams of time….”

  8. dan elliott said on January 9th, 2008 at 5:16pm #

    The indefatigably anonymous “jaime” is still hanging around, so let me just note for anyone who has recently become serious about these issues addressed by Messrs Petersen & Sabri, that I have posted as a comment on the Mssrs P&F’s previous episode, Number 10, the entire text of Ze’ev “Vladimir” Jabotinsky’s original article entitled “The Iron Wall”. The “wall” in reference was, in Jabotinsky’s words, a “wall of bayonets”.
    I would recommend to any relative “newbie” that you visit that article and after reading it, skip the comments & scroll down to “The Iron Wall” — which will put “jaime”s nonsense in context.

  9. sk said on January 9th, 2008 at 6:31pm #

    The interesting thing, as Gilad Atzmon among others, has noted is that militant racists like Jabotinsky were more honest than dissembling “humanists” who were past masters at speaking from both sides of their mouths for edification of Western audiences. This was was recognized and appreciated by contemporary Arabs:

    Jabotinsky was ostracized for speaking the truth. Because he recognized Arab national aspirations as legitimate, he had no interest in denying that the Zionist struggle would be violent. According to Jabotinsky, a group of Arabs approached him in 1926: “You are the only one among the Zionists who has no intention of fooling us,” Egyptian intellectual Mahmoud Azmi is reported as having thanked him for not disguising the true nature of his aims.

    The situation is analogous to the sad realization of Martin Luther King in the last years of his life that Mayor Daley’s Chicago was “more hate-filled than Mississippi”. MLK knew how to deal with white supremacists of the South, but years of grassroots organizing and demonstrations in Chicago only led to a vague and toothless “summit agreement” signed in 1966 between him and the perception mangling Mayor Daley.

    In American Pharaoh, James Downs, Daley’s top housing advisor recalled the fateful meeting that led to their agreement:

    I could just see the mayor decide at that moment how he was going to handle King, that he was going to lie to him. I could just see the moment in which he decided the only way he could get rid of the guy was to tell him a whole lot of lies.

    Following is Gilad Atzmon’s appreciative take on the coherence of Jabotinsky:

    My grandfather was a devoted Jabotinsky follower, and so was my mother as a juvenile (not anymore). I must admit that I, myself, enjoy reading Jabotinsky. Although I disagree with his racist orientation, I can still follow his logic, something that doesn’t happen to me when I read the so-called “left” Zionists.

  10. Ralph Ray said on January 9th, 2008 at 7:06pm #

    Jaime quotes Petersen and Sabri as follows: “. . . a transfer of Jews from historical Palestine must also be feasible as directed by the vissitudes [sic] of power and streams of time” and draws the erroneous conslusion that Petersen and Sabri are calling for such a transfer. In reading, as in critical thought, “context” is everything (as Jaime’s Israel Lobby fellow traveller, Neal, keeps reminding us) and Jaime has taken a portion of a longer statement “out of context” and misread it. Here is what Petersen and Sabri actually say: “Yet, if what she [Kay] is proposing [the transfer of indigenous populations] is permissible, then a transfer of Jews from historical Palestine must also be feasible as directed by the vicissitudes of power and the streams of time. This is nonsense as it implies a never-ending cycle of transfers depending on which group is most powerful at a given moment in time.” Read in context, Peterson and Sabri are not calling for the transfer of Jews, as Jaime states and apparently believes; they are rejecting the whole notion of transfers as “nonsense.” In reading comprehension “context” is fundamental.

  11. Hue Longer said on January 9th, 2008 at 8:26pm #

    If the US stopped giving money to Israel, I’m sure jaime wouldn’t have to worry about his American country asking him to remove by force his friends in his other country…they’d move to NY pretty damned fast (don’t know about the rest though… maybe live side by side with people who just became equal?).

  12. Hue Longer said on January 9th, 2008 at 8:28pm #

    sorry jaime, I meant to infer American born transplants to Israel…”friends” was inappropriate and confusing.

  13. Dennis Brasky said on January 9th, 2008 at 8:49pm #

    “Second, even if they left because their leaders told them to do so, as she claims, that still does not eliminate their inalienable right to the land they inherited through millennia of continuous existence as a people. ”

    Notice how, when Zionists make this spurious claim, no dates of the alleged radio broadcasts, no names of radio stations and no texts of the broadcasts are ever cited. The BBC monitored ALL radio broadcasts throughout the Middle East in 1948. It would be easy to get the specifics to back up their claim. The only recorded appeals to the Palestinians was to STAY PUT!

    Reading the responses of the Zionists like Jaime and Neal should be considered a valuable educational experience for all those who seek peace and justice in Palestine. Their stock and trade consists of lies, half-truths, creating a diversion rather than answer the questions posed, and topping it all off with cries of “Jew hater!” and anti Arab racism. When debating them, stand your ground and hold their worthless asses to the fire. (I expect Jaime to respond to this by accusing me of preaching the pushing of Zionists into crematoria!)

  14. jaime said on January 9th, 2008 at 10:40pm #

    Dennis wrote:

    “Reading the responses of the Zionists like Jaime and Neal should be considered a valuable educational experience for all those who seek peace and justice in Palestine.”

    Honey, you’ve wandered into the wrong lawn party.
    At this point it’s apparently only me and Neal who have been arguing for “peace and justice.” Pretty well most of the others are out for…


  15. Deadbeat said on January 10th, 2008 at 12:41am #

    Kudos to Petersen and Sabri for confronting Zionism and exposing it for the racist ideology that it is. We need more exposure by the left to out this racist ideology and out ALL racists. If Ron Paul can be critiqued for racism so should and so must Zionist of ALL stripes. Most especially those who supposedly represent the left.

  16. joe rose said on January 10th, 2008 at 1:39am #

    Jaime, why do’t you go to daniel pipies’ website? You will read there the kind of bullshit that will make you feel at home. Meanwhile, I would advise you to refrain from ofending the readership of this website as you do, taking us for morons.

  17. Ralph Ray said on January 10th, 2008 at 6:40am #

    Chief rabbi thanks Bush for “war against Iraq”

    “During a short verbal exchange Wednesday at the Ben Gurion Airport Terminal, Chief Ashkenazi Rabbi Yona Metzger thanked President George W. Bush for the US’s military intervention in Iraq. “I want to thank you for your support of Israel and in particular for waging a war against Iraq,” Metzger told Bush, according to the chief rabbi’s spokesman. Bush reportedly answered that the chief rabbi’s words ‘warmed his heart.'” Read the complete story at

    The Iraq war, which the chief rabbi thanked Bush for waging, has cost the lives of over a million Iraqi civilians. So much for the chief rabbis concern with the sanctity of human life.

    Who was it, Jaime, that you were claiming is out for “Blood”?

  18. jaime said on January 10th, 2008 at 9:10am #

    Ralph, you’re what we call a Putz.

    The People’s Voice article was based on another one at the Jerusalem Post.

    The next paragraph of the same article quoted reads:

    “Metzger’s stand on the Iraqi war, while reflecting the Israeli majority and Orthodox Jewry, is not shared with most US Jews. The American Jewish Committee’s annual Survey of American Jewish Opinion, published last year, found that 70 percent of US Jews disapprove of the Iraq war, with 28% backing it.”

  19. Ralph Ray said on January 10th, 2008 at 12:35pm #

    Jaime, I am glad that you acknoweldge that Metgers stand on the Iraq war reflects the views of the Israeli majority and of Orthodox Jewry. I was aware that 70% of American Jews oppose the Iraq War. A majority of American Jews also oppose the views of AIPAC, the Israel Lobby and Zionist apologists such as you. But the fact that a majority of American Jews disagree with what you say has in no way silenced you (and I don’t think it will, either). Maybe you are the Putz?

  20. Hue Longer said on January 10th, 2008 at 3:39pm #